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what will american troops need and when they do what happens? we are going to get answers to those questions with our interview with the secretary of defense, leon panetta. and you are going to be meeting these girls. they have big, big dreams. they are pretty inspirational. we are going to ask the question about what their future as girls is going to be. all that out front tomorrow live. >> thank you all for joining us. in the meantime, anderson cooper 360 starts right now. >> ashley thank you. good evening. we begin tonht keeping them honest searching for facts holding people in government accountable. tonight we are going to show you a place so horrific it is tough to believe it exists. a modern day concentration camp.
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this concentration camp is in north korea a country that is right now publicly celebrating the launch of a missile. >> after four successful failures north korea shocked the world with this launch. nuclear war heads to the west coast of the united states. >> these images showed people celebrating in north korea. tonight there are signs that the north korea people not totally in control of the device. >> but tonight on north korean tv the anchor was so excited.
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while much of the world is talking about misslles tonight, there is a crime against humanity occurring in that country. a crime that receives little attention. 150,000 people blifr believed to ing terrible things. these prisons house entire families. grandparents, parents and children. a system called three generations of punishment. imagine if you were sent to a camp, but to truly punish you, they sent three generations of your family. one of them is called camp 14. he was actually born there.
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he is believed to be the only person born and raised in the camps that has escaped and lived to tell about it. did anybody ever explain to you why you were in a camp? >> no, never. because i was born there, i just thought those people who carried guns were born to carry guns. did you know, america existed? >> not at all. >> did you know, that the world was round? >> i had no idea if it was round or square. >> camp 14 was all that he knew for the first 23 years of his life. satellite images are the only glimpse that outsiders have had of the place. people live here forced to work in the collection of fac rtorie fields and mines surrounded by
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the electric fence. >> did you ever think of escaping? >> that never crossed my mind. >> i thought the society outside of the camp was the same as the inside. >> shin told us this is the house where he was born. his mother and father were prisoners, his marriage was arranged by the guards as a reward for hard work. >> did they live together? >> no, you can't live together. they were separated and only when they worked hard could they be together. >> did they love each other? >> i don't know. in my eyes, we were not a family. we were just prisoners. >> how do you mean? >> you wear what you are given and you eat and do what you are told to do. there is nothing that the parents can do for you and nothing that the children can do
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for your parents. this may be a dumb question. but did you know what love was for the first 23 years of your life? >> i still don't know what that means. >> love may have been absent but fear was not. in this building a school of sorts, shin said he watched his teacher beat a little girl to death for hoarding a few pieces of corn. >> if you escape you would be shot. if you try to escape, you would be shot. even if you did not report someone who was trying to escape. you would be shot. >> the shootings took place in camp. shin considered them a break from the hard labor and constant hunger.
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they were so hungry they ate rats and insects to survive. >> for years you were always hungry. >> yes, of course. and the guards told us who hunger you will repent. >> what they were repenting for probably dates back to the korean war. when two of his cohorts defected to the south. that is why he was sent to camp 14 and why he was supposed to live there until he died. the idea is to eliminate this family on the theory that if the grand father was a counter revolutionary, the father and grandsons would be opposed to the regime as well. >> david hawk was a human rights
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investigator who. >> the largest number of people in the camps are those who are the children or grand children of people considered to be wrong doers or wrong thinkers. >> i have never heard of anything like that. >> it is unique. hitler of course tried to exterminate entire families but in the post world war ii world, it is only korea that had this practice. >> there is no way to verify all of the details of his story. do you believe them? >> so sure. it is consistent of the testimony of the other prisoners
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in every respect. there is physical evidence that he carries with him today. >> the tip of his finger is missing. he says it is chopped off when he broke a machine in a factory. he says he received wounds here in an underground torture center. he was tortured because his mother and older brother were accused of trying to escape. he was 13 years old at the time. >> did they think that you were involved in the escape? >> i'm sure they did. >> how did they torture you? >> they hung me by the ankles and tortured me with fire. and from the scars that i have the wounds on my body. i think they couldn't have done more to me. >> he says he tried to convince them he wasn't part of the
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escape plot. one day they took him to the field used for executions. >> when he went to the public execution site i thought that i might be killed. i was brought to the very front. that is where i saw my mother and my brother being dragged out. and that is when i knew that it wasn't me. >> how did they kill your mother? >> they hung her. and they shot my brother. >> he speaks of it still without visible emotion and admits he felt no sadness watching them die. he thought they got what they deserved. >> he believed the rules of the camp. >> blake harden is a veteran correspondent who reported the story. >> he had no compass by which to
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judge his behavior. the only compass he had was the rules of the camp. when he was 23 that started to change when he met park. >> park was a new prisoner shin says he met while working in camp 14's tex tile fac fri. he had seen the outside world and began to tell shin what life was like on the other side of the fence. >> i paid most attention to what kind of food he eight outside the camp. >> what kind of food? >> oh, a lot of different things broiled chicken, barbecued pig and the thought that even a prisoner like me could eat chicken and pork if i were to escape. >> i have heard people define
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pred freedom in many ways. >> people can eat what they want. it can be the greatest gift from god. >> you were ready to die just to get a good meal. >> yes. >> he got this chance in january of 2005 when he and park were gathering fire wood in this area of the fence. as the sunset they decided to make a run for it. shin slipped in the snow, fell on his face and park got to the fence first and thrust his body and was elect tri cuted. >> how did you get past him? >> i crawled over his back. >> you climbed over him? >> yeah. >> he was a fugitive now in north korea on the run in one of the poorest countries in the world. but that is not how it seemed to him. >> what did the outside world
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look like? >> it was like heaven. people were laughing and talking what they wanted. they were wearing what they wanted. it was shocking. >> i was trying to get away from the camp and i ended up going north. >> did you know where china was? >> not at all. >> it just happened that the way i was going was toward the border. with luck and kunning, shin managed to steal and bribe his way across the border and work his way through china where he would have been sent back where he was caught. in shanghai he was granted asylum. in 2006 he arrived in south korea with not a friend in the world. he was so overwhelmed with culture shock and post traumatic stress he had to be
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hospitalized. he is 30 you now and has made friends and built a new life for himself. but old demons from camp 14 are never far behind. he admit there's was something he was hiding. two years ago he confessed. >> when he told me about the excuse about his mother and brother he didn't say he turned them in. >> you reported your mother and brother? >> yes. >> what did you hope to get out of reporting them? >> well, being full for the first time. >> more food? >> yes, but the biggest reason was i was supposed to report it. >> why was shin tortured after ratting out his mother and brother? >> the guard who he ratted out to, did not tell his pesuperior
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>> so the guard was trying to claim credit. >> yes. >> it was only after seeing what life was like that he started to feel guilt about what he had done to his mother and brother. >> my mother and brother, if i can meet them through a time machine, i would like to go back and apologize. by telling the story, i think i can compensate, repent for what i did. >> repentance as taken shin all over the world. he meets with congressmen and is telling the story to us because he is frustrated by the attention the press pays to north korea's new leader and his wife. in south korea he and his friends started a talkshow to tell the world what is going on
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in the north. as for that taste of freedom he risked his life for. he can eat all of the broiled chicken he wants now. >> when i eat something good and i laugh with my friends and make some money i'm excited but that is only mow mentary and right away i worry again. >> you worry about what now? >> all of those people in the camps. children are being born there. and somebody is probably being executed. >> and you think about that a lot? >> yes. >> so while the world focuses on the north korea missile launch. we focus on the prison camps in north korea. let us know what you think. up next the lives lost in the oregon mall shooting and what turned a # 22-year-old into a masked killer. i have a cold, and i took nyquil,
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>> more now on the search for answers. >> yeah, i've seen him there. >> neighbors say the 22-year-old moved in six months ago renting the basement of this portland house. >> he just came out, and he didn't wave or anything. he just went out with a guitar case in the car. two hours later the 911 calls were coming in. >> roberts wearing a hockey mask and firing a stolen rifle was making his way through the mall. by that time i hit the floor and ran out. i was telling anyone i saw there is a shooting going on. >> police say the only reason he
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>> kim, when you consider the kind of weapon that he was carrying, if the gun jammed how was he able to kill himself? they don't know how this happened. because the gun jammed early on in the food court. the suspect then started to run. it is during that process that police say for some reason the gun unjammed. that is when he took his own life. but that gun jamming, anderson, police call that a miracle. >> we have been hearing a lot of stories of people who helped other people in the midst of this frightening situation. >> absolutely. the police say what shows up here for them. the damage is that they want to focus on the people who chipped into help each other. the people stayed calm and
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what those mechanisms are. >> one of the questions is that if it was pury genetics some scientists say it would die out over time. gay people in large numbers have not been pro creating and therefore passing it down, but if it these epimarks that would explain how it is passed from generation to generation. that is one of the theer yis as to why these elements have not died out over millions of years. they have stayed tudy. the genes don't get passed along. but the epigenetics can get passed along. thank you very much. >> it ended with a 27-year-old
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mexican prison. >> bring this marine home mexican government and now that you have a new president installed in most co, the relations with the united states are important to treat the united states citizens who are posse peaceful in their intent and innocent in their observation of the mexican laws send that u.s. marine back to america and back to his family in miami. how did he end up in prison to begin with. it gets stranger and stranger.
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after completing a ptsd treatment program last summer he set off. >> he served in afghanistan and iraq. he decided to drive through mexico to costa rica on a surfing vacation. >> he had been there before and surfd. >> he knew it was most co but he wasn't planning on staying there. >> his parents were concerned when johnny said he wanted to bring an think teak seantique sd
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row bu robuck shotgun. >> how far was he when he was arrested? >> he was on the border. he was crossing the border. >> or less. >> johnny's friend was released but johnny was brought to this jail and charged with violating mexican strict gun laws. few nights after he was imprisoned. his parents got a call from someone threatening to kill their son unless he gave them money. >> he said i have your son and he said i'm going to f him up and he said i already have. for some stupid reason my response was, oh no, i'm going to call the consulate. and he put johnny on the phone. and i couldn't believe it.
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and then i realized, oh my got god, and i thought he wasn't in the prison. someone has taken him out of the prison. because i couldn't conceive of this going on in a government facility. >> what did he tell you? >> he said, mom you need to do whatever they say. and he said they are really serious. >> the hammers never heard from the caller again. also the u.s. consulate has known about this from the beginning. his parents kept this story out of the press. but desperate they are speaking out now. the longer we go in with him in there the greater chance he will not get out alive. >> the family has informed her about this. >> this is outrageous and i'm asking for the state department to be more proactive. i've communicated with them and
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our u.s. ambassador in mexico. this week i meet with the mexican ambassador to the united states. their son had looked forward to a surfing vacation. he talked to his parents on friday. >> i said johnny we are going to get you out. and he said mom, you have beeen telling me that since august. >> you went to the area. what are officials saying there? >> well first, we should point out, the parents do not think the consulate did a good job. the consulate did get him out of the general population, we are on the texas side of the border. two miles mind me is the consulate. it is not safe for us to be live
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reporting in mexico. it is a heavily ford fied building. there is a armed guard outside and i talked to the boss there. and the council general told me when he said they were unable to get the clearance to find out what the consulate was doing. they said, the consulate is following mr. hammer's case closely. we are in constant contact with the lawyers and family. and we will continue to monitor his well being. they have seen him in prison. and johnny hammer is still there and he presented the gun at the border and now he is in jail for four months. we'll continue following. his parents have been afraid to go public with their son's
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story. you can imagine how awful these last months have been for them. >> live theoh live thea i can't imagine how this has been for you. how are you holding up? >> taking it one day at a time and praying that this exposure helps get him home. >> you went down to visit his son. what are the conditioning like where he is held? >> they are horrible. third world facilities, and it is not a secure facility either. and you know the road out there from town is, you know has problems daily. i was not underrized to go out there by the state department, i had to go on my own. >> i read one of you say that
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you believe he is being chained to a bed at times? >> yes, you know it is not a secure situation that he is in. because you know the state department got him isolated from the main facilities that is run by the cartel. but the area that he is in isn't a facility for housing a prisoner. it is a makeshift closet storage area next to guard offices. and so i suspect to give them some relief every now and then the dpards will chain him to the bed because they feel like there is this guy over here and he could run away and we will get in trouble and then the consulate will go out there and tell them no, you can't do that every month or so. but it is a back and forth contest. >> you said the car tell is running the prison.
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>> the main part of the prison. the 90% of the prison where the actual facilities, you know, is once you get in those doors. the cartel controls it. or seems to, because we get called from inside the prison saying this is not about the police, this is about us, and this is our house and if you don't no send money, we are going to kill your son. here is your son on the phone. >> so wait, you are saying people from the prison are calling you trying to extort money from you? >> in august that is how it started that was our first phone call. >> they asked for $1800. we said we'll send it tell us how. they said we'll call you back with a western union account
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number >> so when we hung up we called the state department. >> but at some point the calls stopped. but it took three days for them to confirm that he had been isolated. >> what was the letter and did it have any impact. >> the letters because the crime that he is charged with apossession of a weapon that is restricted for military use. the arm of the milt in mexico sent a letter to the judge and prosecutor saying that this weapon is not on their quote forbidden list and they have just declined to you know, give that any weight. >> what are you hoping mexican officials will do or what do you want them to know? >> i'm appealing to the government to put pressure on
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don't you love this time of year? nothing says happy holidays more than a strip club. we have having toys for tatas. you come in and bring a toy to donate and we'll give you two for one lap dances. >> isn't that sweet? the fine folks there are putting the poll back in the north pole this christmas. ho ho ho everybody.
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thank you platinum caberet. the strip club didn't run the idea by him. >> it is not something that we would have endorsed. as long as it is done in a legal matter and as long as people are bringing us new unwrapped toys. we don't get into what the process was. the concept of toys for tatas not confined to the greater faye fayetteville area. and in rick's caber are et in minneapolis they have one with a
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